http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/2010/03/who-says-a-woman-cant-serve-as-a-rabbi/ Unorthodox Jewish reflections on the issues of our day Mon, 21 May 2012 23:32:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/2010/03/who-says-a-woman-cant-serve-as-a-rabbi/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 rey Mon, 23 May 2011 08:17:32 +0000 http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/?p=5155#comment-1321 BTW, as a general rule, if your interpretation of the Torah agrees with Paul, you are wrong. You might want to pass that on to the rabbis! Because seriously, Paul says Abraham was justified by faith apart from works--even a fellow Christian, James, had to call him on that one, "was not Abraham our father justified by works....?" Seems to me just about the only thing they can cite in their favor of silencing women is that Paul says the law says it, and that is very weak ground indeed. BTW, as a general rule, if your interpretation of the Torah agrees with Paul, you are wrong. You might want to pass that on to the rabbis! Because seriously, Paul says Abraham was justified by faith apart from works–even a fellow Christian, James, had to call him on that one, “was not Abraham our father justified by works….?” Seems to me just about the only thing they can cite in their favor of silencing women is that Paul says the law says it, and that is very weak ground indeed.

]]> http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/2010/03/who-says-a-woman-cant-serve-as-a-rabbi/comment-page-1/#comment-1320 rey Mon, 23 May 2011 08:13:20 +0000 http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/?p=5155#comment-1320 Paul says in 1 Cor 14 that women are to be silent in the church "as also the law says." I've always wondered where the law says that. (I know it doesn't, I mean.) Is it where Miriam leads the people in song? Is it where Deborah is made judge of all Israel? Is it in Proverbs where Wisdom cries in the street and utters HER voice? Where is this prohibition of women speaking? When I was an orthodox christian I had to think that Paul must be right somehow, so I imagined (as un-orthodox as it was to do so for an orthodox christian) that by "the law" here Paul must mean the Talmud! Of course I have and had no idea if the Talmud says any such thing, but I know the Torah does not. Paul says in 1 Cor 14 that women are to be silent in the church “as also the law says.” I’ve always wondered where the law says that. (I know it doesn’t, I mean.) Is it where Miriam leads the people in song? Is it where Deborah is made judge of all Israel? Is it in Proverbs where Wisdom cries in the street and utters HER voice? Where is this prohibition of women speaking? When I was an orthodox christian I had to think that Paul must be right somehow, so I imagined (as un-orthodox as it was to do so for an orthodox christian) that by “the law” here Paul must mean the Talmud! Of course I have and had no idea if the Talmud says any such thing, but I know the Torah does not.

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